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    Is it possible to wire in an OBD2 port on an '08 R6?
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    Default Re: Is this possible?

    I am sure it would be possible, but why? OBD2 mainly has to do with the various systems on cars that motorcycles simply do not have/need to worry about.
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    I haven't heard anyone try this with an R6, but I've seen this product floating around:
    Yamaha 3P M Plug To ObdII Supplier

    It's supposed to convert the 3 pin diagnostic connector into a obdii port.

    Hope that that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Championr6-476 View Post
    but why?
    I've put together a GPS lap timing setup that is a fraction of the cost of the XT Racing system. I also figured out how to get the RPMs/throttle logged too but the catch is that I needed an OBD2 port. It's a lot more complicated than the XT system, but since I've saved a lot it's worth it to me. Plus it was a fun little project that made me learn about some math and excel stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by segiterrus View Post
    I haven't heard anyone try this with an R6, but I've seen this product floating around:
    Yamaha 3P M Plug To ObdII Supplier

    It's supposed to convert the 3 pin diagnostic connector into a obdii port.

    Hope that that helps.
    That helps a ton actually. I don't think that unit would pick up on RPMs and throttle but it may...I'd be willing to give it a shot unless it was like $50+.

    EDIT: I contacted the company who makes them and they don't sell to individual customers and wouldn't tell me who a distributor is. Swing....and a miss. I was going to register to see how much it was, but it wants a company name & website.
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    Make one up, Dunc Racing? Say that you're an LLC, interested in one for trying in racing applications.
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    That'd work. I could use R6L.com as my website lol. I have a feeling that there is a minimum order quantity of 50 though.

    EDIT: So read this email reply and tell me how this makes any sense at all lol.....

    "Derrick,
    Perhaps I contacted the wrong place to try and get this item. I am a consumer and not a company. This is was to be used for a custom racing setup therefore I was only looking for one unit.

    Are there any retail sellers of your product that do small orders? Sorry if I wasted your time.


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    "Dear xxxxxxxx,

    It no problem that you try to enquire about anything about our products.

    We currently don't have distributors.

    I hope you can get what you need as early as possible."

    Question: So if they don't have any distributors then how do they plan on selling their product? I mean you don't see this being sold to the mass by a company or anything so it's basically a catch22. If there are no distributors then there are no companies that buy this. Oh well thanks for trying segiterrus.
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    Thought I would share some screenshots and video. Went to Putnam again back on 07/25/10 for another round of riding in the intermediate group. I managed to pull off a 1.25.xx lap but most were betwen 1.26-1.29 with the majority within 8 tenths of each other in the 1.29 range. I was sort of disappointed in my lap times, but I'm not worried about that because I know where to go faster now thanks to the telemetry. I think I need to carry about 30mph more through turn 1 and also the carry more through the bus stop at turn 7. Typically I make up ground by carrying more speed than others through turn 4-6 and 10.

    Anyways here is my lap timer setup so you can see what I've been talking about from the above posts. It logs the following every 0.2 seconds via a 5hz bluetooth receiver straight to my phone. Total cost excluding the phone was $55.98. You can log everything just using the phone which would make the cost $6.99 instead. However the phone can only log once per second (1hz) and that's just unacceptable so 5hz+ is pretty much mandatory.
    - Split marker number
    - Lap number
    - Lap time
    - Split time
    - Latitude
    - Longitude
    - Altitude
    - Bearing
    - G-forces
    - Speed

    Optional data logging:
    - Throttle position
    - RPM
    - Temperatures (i.e. coolant, etc)
    - Pressures (i.e. oil, etc)

    For the optional data logging you can get this wireless as well. However you need to have an ODBII port. Since my bike doesn't have that I can do it *tear*. Oh well though, this is good enough since I don't feel like paying $600+ for a premade GPS system.

    From here I've put together an Excel spreadsheet that takes all the data by lap and calculates distance traveled between the lat & long coordinates and other various items. This also allows me to create and X/Y graph which is used to draw the track layout. Then I use a program that animates the Excel data and saves it as a video file. Finally I use a video editor and overlay the telemetry to my videos. The program I'm using can overlay up to 7 video feeds so at my next trackday I'm going to have about 5 cameras total on the bike to get a few angles at once. On to the pics and video....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dunc
    Turn 10 coming onto the front straight.


    This is the main screen when review the session while on the phone. Those clock-like looking things at the turns are the locations of the split markers. To place them you just zoom in really far in the satellite view and place a small "x" on the track. I haven't tested it though, but I think there is a small radius around that point so it'll still pick you up even if you aren't on the racing line. I need to tested that out though.


    This shows the available export formats for the data.


    This is a screen shot of my computer after export the data to Google Earth. I took out the data points because in a 1.30 lap there are about 470 points. This was clutter for this picture. The white line is my drive line and where there is a break in the green/red shading indicates where I was holding the speed/accel constant. There was a hiccup in the GPS data at turn 5 on this lap. As seen it looks like I went off-roading lol.


    This screen shows the available track layouts. You place your split markers around the track via satellite images through Google Maps. When saved you can switch between the tracks so when you get there all your split markers are in the same spot as last time. These are shareable files so you can use other peoples track layouts they create.


    Here you can instantly review your split markers while at the track.


    The phone logs each session separately. This is just a graph for one individual session.


    Here is the video (be sure to select 720p if it doesn't do it automatically):
    Last edited by Dunc; 07-31-2010 at 03:58 AM.
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    Default Re: Is this possible?

    wow... very very awesome, can you post up your excel file? I'm really interested in taking a look at it... also, what programs are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzuyd View Post
    wow... very very awesome, can you post up your excel file? I'm really interested in taking a look at it... also, what programs are you using?
    The program I'm using capture the data is Trackmaster with the bluetooth addon. The program to animate the Excel data is called RaceChrono2AVI. The program I'm using to edit the video is Corel VideoStudio ProX3.

    Attached is my Excel file. FYI, I had to take a bunch of data and formulas out in order to get under the file size limit. Over the course of (10) 1.5 minute laps the Excel file will grow to be about 13MB. Once everything is in place you only have to use the red colored tab to generate the animation which is about 0.5MB. This was the biggest hurdle of this project. It took quiet a few hours to get all the formulas and the layout correct since drawing the track map takes a little bit of math.
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    Default Re: Is this possible?

    Wow! I'm glad you got most of it to work, looks pretty awesome!

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